Emergent movement?

May 16, 2012 in New Age, Philosophy, Theology

My son is looking for a church in your area but I have some questions and concerns about The Rock.

I saw a couple pages from two websites, the first is a definition of The Emerging/Emergent Church Movement from GotQuestions.com and the second is a schedule of speakers from theresugence.com/conference listing Pastor Miles as one of the speakers with Rick Warren, Greg Laurie, and James McDonald.

My main concerns are that I am sending my son to attend church that may be:

1. Heading towards apostasy and New Age thinking

2. Growing closer to uniting with the Catholic Church and One World Church-One World Order

3. Preaching that the book of Revelation is not relevant today

4. Increasing Humanism and social things replacing the Gospel of Christ

5. Less and less teaching on the Second Coming of Christ and teaching that Jesus reign in the milleneum is unbiblical

6. Teaching that the church is replacing Israel in God’s heart (Israel is the bride of God and the church is the bride of Christ)

7. Teaching that Christianity is an ancient religion and not relevant today

The church is contemporary, which is OK, but I need to pay attention, tell him don’t be fooled, and flee the Rock Church if indeed Emerging/Contemplative thinking has entered their ministry, but I haven’t been there.

I would like information on Rock Church’s Biblical view on this topic. My concern needs some attention from the inside. I desire to encourage his faith, walk, and worship and Biblical teaching, but if Pastor Miles is part of The Emergent, Contemplative Church movement I don’t want him there, can’t recommend it to him.

Can you help with that?

1 Corinthians 10 ~ reflection by Alberto Hernandez

April 23, 2012 in General

"No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it."(1 Corinthians 10:13)

Many times I have read this passage and tried to deal with temptation on my own strength. I believed that God provided me with the tools to say "no" to sin and yes to "righteousness". Though this is true I now see that the spirit of this passage is stating that when I put my trust in God's faithfulness, He will provide the escape. Through God's faithfulness I will be able to bear the temptation. I can not deal with the temptations in my life without relying on God and his faithfulness. I deal with the temptations of lust, pride of heart, selfish ambition, and many others. I am refreshed to remember that God is in control and that He will always be faithful no matter what. What temptations have you tried to "escape" without the faithfulness of God? How will you change your mindset and rely on God's faithfulness? To God be the glory!

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April 3, 33 AD

April 18, 2012 in General

 

How do we know th crucifixion was April 3, 33AD? My friend Steve Austin tells us here:

http://www.gccramona.com/docs/Signs%20on%20the%20Day%20of%20the%20Cross%20Rev5.pdf

 

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Class 1 PowerPoint

April 17, 2012 in General

Great class last night, thanks all for coming! Here is the link to the PowerPoint, this is updated, and corrected a bit for clarity:

 

http://lessons.voxveritas.info/class 1_Jesus_A_Man_Of_History_Adapted4RockClasses.pptx

In an e-mail a man asked about cults, I will make an entry very loosely based on that using our Alter Ego friend, vALTERvEGO  with password 1234567 shortly just to keep him in the loop :)

vALTER Who?

April 16, 2012 in General

Mouse-over the Home Tab to find our newest member and his/her password, vALTERvEGO (alter-ego) which you can use any time to log-in if you do not want to use your regular log-in for WHATEVER reason and post a comment of question. Please don't abuse that or we will kick him out :)

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Why do we use Facebook?

April 12, 2012 in General

 

Why do we feel a need to link up, to connect, to make contacts? Why do we use LinkedIn, Facebook, Google+ and the hundreds of other networking sites? Why do we pay $100 or more for cell phones then buy a $300 phone that can post your pictures to the web instantly, tweet to hundreds, follow hundreds of others, and post what you ate for breakfast on these social networks?

Two things seem obvious: 1) We want to be connected, and 2) we feel disconnected.

The first things the Bible tells us are: 1) God created the heavens and the earth, everything originally in them, and then he created mankind. He created mankind and connected him directly to the Godhead. God walked and talked to us in the garden every day. And then he created woman so there can be more of us, we connect, and make more of us. These are all connections.

Then we disconnected, we pulled the plug, we turned our backs and walked away.

This seems to explain today’s people pretty well. The feeling that we need to be connected makes us want to connect. Stated differently, man is gregarious by nature. The fact that we disconnected, that is, sinned and rebelled against God tells us we are disconnected, and fell estranged, inadequate, and threatened by others.

We need two things: 1) to accept Gods offer to connect, and 2) connect with others eternally.

How about the sin we so easily indulge in? Aren’t the major sins trying to connect either to man or God or feel the euphoria of doing so? Isn’t illicit sex, often referred to as hook-up, a form of connecting? Certainly it is, and certainly it doesn’t work because it is the wrong method but it manages to make us feel better for a very short time. Unfortunately it make us feel worse later so it is not help at all. You can do away with the bad feelings by burning your conscience, but then the ectasy leaves as well.

Drugs (legal or otherwise) are used to make us feel better or even take us to a place of euphoria as a replacement for the euphoria of being connected to God. Both create a state of euphoria, both release endorphins, internal (“endo”) morphine (“orphine”). These make us feel better even if only for a short time.

We watched the film Puss-in-Boots this week and the very first scene is the cat leaving his latest hook-up and proclaiming “I will always remember you.” The cat, of course, is anthropomorphic, a representative for a human, thus the human voice (Antonia Banderas) and action, treated like a human, so let’s treat him the same. He calls himself a great lover because he has sex with one woman after another. Is this what women need and need? Absolutely not. It has been said many times before and is ever so true; a great lover is not a man who romances a different woman every night. A great lover is a man who romances the same woman for a lifetime. This produces a fulfilled life. I would add that a great religion is not one that accepts everything as true, rather, one that knows what is true and teaches it.

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When Ugly is Beautiful, about Good Friday

April 6, 2012 in Bad things happen, General, Jesus' Deity

 

I try to make the headers on these pages beautiful. We cannot have enough beauty, or goodness or mercy, and I try to be good, and try to show mercy, and try to create beauty, and sometimes my photos do this, sometimes my artwork does this. All of the pictures, headers, and artwork on the site are mine, so you can give me your opinion on how I am doing.

Can beauty be ugly? Well, back to our rules of logic, no, it can’t be both [in the same manner and at the same time], but beauty can be used wrongly, every strip club we pass on the way to church proves this, beauty is used in a very ugly manner.

Can ugly be beautiful? Again, not in the same sense but in a difference sense but at the same time, yes, something terribly ugly can be beautiful, but in a different manner.

Today is Good Friday, and we are going to watch Mel Gibson’s Passion of the Christ. This is a movie that accurately reflects one of the ugliest events in history, the murder of a wholly innocent man, the only one who has ever lived, and at the same time but I a different manner it is the most beautiful event that has ever happened. It redeems mankind.

Buy the way, we know the actual date of this if the Julian Calendar is extended backwards, the date would be April 3, 33AD. And this is why you will see that date periodically on this site.

So the paradox is, a well done movie accurately portrays one of the ugliest events in history but it is the most beautiful story ever told.

A little odd, isn’t it, unless you think about why each aspect is true. This isn’t hidden from anyone, in fact, nearly everyone who watches the story has the same response, tears. We cry over the ugliness and the beauty of what happened at the same time. It tears you heart out, just like man’s rebellion tears God’s heart out. We all have experienced these emotions because we are like God, created in his image, so our hearts can be broken also.

God created a beautiful world, we made it ugly, then used a very ugly event to return it us to him, the most beautiful thing that can happen. Then, on Sunday, he is risen. He is risen indeed. The most beautiful event is completed three days later, he raised himself from the grave.

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Christians and Chakras

April 2, 2012 in General, New Age, Philosophy, Theology

 

“You need to open your eyes to new knowledge” said she.

“What do you mean?” said I

“There are things that are just now being revealed to man about God’s universe that have been hidden before, at least to the western mind,” said she.

“What types of things?” I asked.

“The energy system of the body,” said she.

“I am well versed in the energy systems, the metabolism of carbohydrates, the problems such as heart disease and cancer, and strangely energy deprivation that can come from too simple of an energy molecule like refined sugar, or too much caffeine. The fact that we need adequate protein, and sunlight, omega 3 fatty acids and avoidance of trans-fatty acids especially in margarine. I have lectured on these things for thirty years” said I.

“Oh, but there is more,” said she, in order to heal with energy effectively, we must first understand the nature of our energy system and how to support yourself in maintaining vital life-force energy, otherwise known as “chi” in Chinese, everyone has an invisible energy system that flows energy on pathways or meridians. These same meridians have multiple pressure points that have been a means of working with the energy to keep it flowing. When your energy is leaking, weak, or frozen you feel depleted, heavy and even stuck! When you are energy-depleted and challenged, it is more difficult to manage your emotions, think positive thoughts, stay healthy and attract harmony to your life. Everyone has an invisible energy system called chakras. The word chakra means energy disc, vortex, or wheel. There are seven energy stations positioned from the base of your spine to the top of your head. These wheels of energy compose the 7 primary chakra energy’s that each play a big role in every aspect of your life and well-being.”

“I am surprised by this” said I, after all you seem to be more conservative than I in the insistence on King James Bible only and have even insinuated that the verses prohibiting the addition or removal of text from the Bible apply to changing translation versions, now you are teaching Hinduism. How do you justify mixing Christianity with Hinduism?”

“Paul, at Mars Hill,” said she, “he did this as well, using the current thinking about the gods to bring them to Christ, he shared new knowledge, I teach people that the universal energy they receive after they open and expand the crown chakra. Life force energy is also fed to us through our crown chakra. The crown chakra is located on the top of your head. We maintain a higher life force energy when our crown chakra is open and active. When the crown chakra is closed or weak, we feel a lack of vitality and direction in our lives. As a result we look to others rather than our own spiritual compass for guidance. We can dissolve ourselves into the universal energy using this energy vortex.”

“Therein lies my surprise,” said I.

“Why is that” said she.

“Hinduism is a composite of hundreds of Sanskrit religions many of which were themselves a collection of various beliefs ending with Hinduism and its 12,000,000 gods,” said I, “and the goal is to lose yourself in Nirvana, the great universal energy. Buddha decided he didn’t like the gods and dumped them but kept many of the concepts, but in his religion you also lose yourself in Nirvana but it is the total extinction of self into the universal energy. In the Bible, you never lose the person, the individual is important, when you die you are not subsumed into nothingness, you, as a person, are important to God. These two ideas are opposites and cannot be reconciled.”

“You are too western in your thinking, too logical, again, Paul did this and it was effective.” Said she.

“Paul debated using logical and rational thought, he found an opening with an unknown god, he did not take their belief and show them how it aligned with a cosmic universal.” Said I “in fact he argued in the synagogue and with the Stoic and Epicurean philosophers. They are called out in the text. This isn’t mysticism, it was logic.”

“I am not at all sure I like you attacking my ideas! Personal attacks are not scriptural,” she objected.

“Paul wrote in 2 Timothy 4, ‘Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.’ Note that I used your King James version.” Said I. “Also, Joshua when faced with other gods did not mix his beliefs, he told the people, ‘Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.’ He did not mince words, the Word of God must not be compromised with foreign gods. In fact, the only reason he told the Jews not to mix with other tribes was that, and it is clearly laid out in the Bible. Jesus, the fullness of the godhead bodily claims exclusivity and demanded our obedience.”

“I didn’t realize I was doing that,” said she, “perhaps I need to think this through.”

“Perhaps” said I. "I will hold the Bible has all the new knowledge we need, science is still catching up to it."

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Quit you like men

March 28, 2012 in General

 

Christianity has always been a faith that favors men and manliness. It is mostly the last century and a half that women have come to the forefront when men have backed off leadership positions. Men started to be lead astray and deceived by philosophy and the sciences and told that faith is for women, and irrational. Women then took charge when men disappeared and this is not good.

But the Bible is not written to women but greatly favors their well treatment by instructing men to act appropriately toward them (“men, love your wives”) and to be faithful and kind, and all the fruits of the spirit, but it still insists that men act like men. I Corinthians 16:13 (KJV) states; “Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.”

The Greek word here is andrizomai, to be like a man, to become like a man, or to become brave. It is the only use of the word in the Bible. NIV translates this: “Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong.” The ESV states: “Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.”

All good translations I think.

Paul continues the warier metaphors in his next book to the same church, where in 2 Cr 10:3-54 he writes “For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.” Every thought. We often wrongly conclude that acting like a man means doing whatever you want to do, to be lawless and wild, but this is not the image God gives us here, he gives us a message of bravery, strength, and self-control.

Conformity and Non-conformity

March 20, 2012 in Bad things happen, General

We came back from Yosemite late Thursday (4/28/12) and were reflecting this morning on tourist groups we ran into there and my son’s friend in China. The linkage was that the groups we ran into were also Chinese. There were several such groups. First we had hiked up to a giant redwood named The Grizzly Giant (photo above with Sue at the base 4/25/2011) in the Mariposa Grove, and then went off to find a trail largely covered by the remaining snow. Later we descended back to the road and as we popped out onto the road close to the trail to find our first group of Chinese looking a bit amazed that we seemed to come out of the forest, not on the trail and certainly not on the road. One lady asked directions to the named tree. After receiving those direction, she said, “but you came from there?” pointing into the forest. Yes, we came from there, from a road, as it were, less traveled. We were walking on dirt, mud, rocks, water, and snow. They were traveling comfortably on asphalt.

Later we were at Tunnel View, the lookout, at the end of the tunnel with the famous view of Yosemite Valley. Again, I crossed the road and went up onto the rock (not difficult) to get a good picture of the rocks, the water on them, and of the valley from a different perspective. When I returned Sue commented that a bus of Chinese that had pulled up and unloaded to enjoy the view had only one person who seemed to want to leave the group and see where I had gone, but resisted the temptation and conformed to his group dynamic. It isn’t only Chinese that do this, but there, the government reinforces the natural tendency for people to form groups and conform to group norms.

This morning my son reflected on his friend who had returned to his home in China and was doing AIDS activism work there. The government had refused to heed health warnings two decades ago and was not testing blood used for transfusions. They infected tens of thousands of people with HIV. He is making people aware of that and was recently beaten and hospitalized for holding a community meeting. Descent is not appreciated there, only conformity is acceptable. A friend who studied there for a year said, “They cannot understand why he doesn’t conform.”

I started to think about conformity and non-conformity and the role each plays in the world.

Salmon swim en masse up stream to breed and die in much the same location as they were born. But what if a new stream is created? How did the salmon get to these streams in the first place? These streams were once new. It is actually the case that 10-15% of the salmon do not conform, but explore different locations at different times as they swim upstream. When a new stream is discovered it is these non-conforming fishes that populate the new stream. It is also these fish that prevent excessive inbreeding with the fish returning to the old spawning grounds. It is sometimes the non-conformist that makes the difference. There is a place in nature for conformity and non-conformity and each has its appropriate time for expression.

How does this relate to our Christianity?

We are to conform to God’s Word, everything else, everyone else, is questionable.

As soon as humans enter into the equation error ensues at some level.

We remember the Roman Catholic Church and the problems caused by a hierarchy that claims the very power of God to act and to speak for him. The abuses of power that periodically occurred mar the Body of Christ. Power corrupts. The Church of England broke off and people died on both sides as England flip flopped back and forth according to which child of the previous King ruled. Finally the Church of England, the Anglicans prevailed.

Did this solve the problem?

King James II, the last Catholic King had no less than nine illegitimate children by his two mistresses and two wives. This isn’t a Catholic problem, it is a human problem. Yesterday one English Prince married the girl he lived on and off with for nine years. In a few years he will carry the title of “Defender of the Faith” when his father, but not the father of his brother, ascends to the throne. While the Current Price of Wales has had that title, he took the wife of another man and had a long affair with her before and after marrying Dianna. Dianna was devastated and finally divorced him, but not before having a child by a polo player. That child is now third in line to the Throne of England. Oh, what to do with Harry?

These are the “Defenders of the Faith?”

My own good friend of old, priest in the Episcopalian church, had an affair with a woman whose marriage was already in trouble, she came to him for help. They later married, and he cheated on her in nearly every manner possible before losing his position, and his family. The whole story is simply too ugly to repeat. Then there are the many evangelical pastors, including one of my own, who have fallen to this particular sin (of course there are many other sins to fall into). I asked my former pastor, before his sin was revealed, “On Sunday morning when you look out into a crowd of 1500 people do you think every one of them believes everything you say?” his words ought to chill us to the bone: “They had better.” His own infidelity with his secretary destroyed his family, her family, and several others before he is alleged to have stopped.

Are these the people we are to conform to?

I think not.

No, we are to be conformed to the image of Christ, not to particular men, not to particular positions they may hold. Anything less is simply, well, less. All other images are flawed. This is where it is up to the individual to understand what is true conformity to Christ and to his Word, and what is conformity to man, even if it is called ‘conformity to Christ’ by the particular church body.

The crowd sat comfortably in church. The deacon stood up and walked with his wife to the front of the church, and then instructed her to inform the congregation of the affair she was having with the pastor. She did, but what he left out was that she had gone to the pastor for help after finding her husband was not only on cocaine, but was cheating on her, and on it goes. People fall short of expectations. This was the same pastor that had made that statement above. This was the pastor that had tried to stop me from thinking independently. Of course, that never works with anyone as the communists found out.

Unfortunately I could go on and on, but that is not the point, the point is, where are you in your walk with Christ? Do you believe everything any pastor you have might claim is true or do you read the scripture for yourself to see if it is true or false? Your pastor has learned from his colleges and seminary to think about the scripture a certain way. Is it the correct way? It might be one thing if there were only one church, but that was tried, and failed. There are hundreds of denominations each with a different viewpoint. Which one then is correct in all of its views? I would hazard to say, none of them. Then what are we to do if not conform to our church leaders?

Conform to the Word of God.

It is indeed a two sided coin, conformity and non-conformity, but it is helpful to look at the failures of past church leaders if only to remember that many claim to be speaking for God but too often are simply attempting to preempt some human power for themselves, and for their own benefit however that may be defined.

But God has spoken. He has spoken for himself.

We need to understand when we are listening to a human speak we are not listening to God directly, we are listening to him directly only when we are reading or listening to someone read the Bible. Because he is learned does not make him correct, there are other learned men who disagree on many points about the same verse.

There are all kinds of people who go to church, and nearly as many reasons for attending. Some only because they think God will look favorably on them if they attend, some because their family or friends expect them to attend. Let’s talk about those that are going because they want to learn something. With all we know, only a smattering of which is repeated above, it could be self-destructive to attend any church and only accept whatever you were told by the leaders of the church, what is, to conform to any suggestion of the church leaders without considering your other responsibilities and without considering the Word of God.

There are things God tells us directly to do or not to do. For the rest, he gave us a reasoning mind and tells us to make good decisions.

I have heard one verse of scripture interpreted three different ways by pastors of the same congregation, and the different ways were incompatible with each other, only one of them could be true, but possible none were. The question then becomes, how are we to understand what the Word of God is telling us? I would suggest that the simply English, taken as it reads in the many trustworthy versions is sufficient. There really is very little in the Bible that cannot be understood by simply reading it and thinking about what it actually says.

That is the independent side of the coin. The conformity side is: Do what God tells you to do in the scripture. One of those things is, “do not stop meeting together.” At the same time, do not check your brain at the front door. The coin has two sides and spins round and round.